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Wishlist - What do you want to see in the Prairie Fire DLC?

Longnez

I would like to see Viet women soldiers because they played a major role in this war as well and women on the civilian side to populate the rice fields and the villages.

Fingolfin

Some older US weapons like the M1 Garand, Thompson SMG and BAR for the ARVN/VC units and a Stoner 63A Commando/light machine gun variant. The Stoner in SOG😛F is just a nicer M16 gameplay-wise...

Also Vietnamese women, but that will probably never happen.

pmeg7319

Hi first of all, really cool dlc ! I just have one issue, which is the damage dealt by the miniguns of the cayuse and the huey. They seem to have almost no effect, which is a bit anoying, because it would be really fun. I can empty the whole magazine on a group of people and it doesn't seem to have any effect. I would really appreciate if that could be changed to something like the pawnee. I can't imagine this to be realistic. Why bother with the weight of that thing, if it doesn't do anything.

CptPlanet

My two cents -

Fixed Wing:

O-1 Bird Dog
A-1 Skyraider
A-6 Intruder
OV-10 Bronco
0-2 Skymaster
AC-47 Spooky
C-130

Helis:

CH-47 Chinook
Ch-53 Super Stallion
HH-3 Jolly Green Giant

Specles

I feel that we should have some cargo aircraft from the era. I propose a short field twin engine aircraft that could transport crates and small vehicles. it could be used on runways or improvised runways to resupply FOB's. I Propose the de Havilland DHC-4 Caribou, this thing would be bitchen and make the DLC a little more well rounded.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ibou_Vabre.jpg

L0w

Jerry cans so we can refuel a bit. Maybe not enough for a full refill

Bando

I know this will probably be ignored but please add the last two rounds into AR magazines I understand why you have done this but in reality very few people ever loaded their magazines as such when you have a tiny 20 round magazine taking a tenth of your ammunition away hurts.

SabreOne

Texture Templates for modders.
Flare Proxies for modders to add counter-measures to the F4 Currently they just spawn off the tail.
"clean" variants of textures for better Sandbox blending. I'm looking at you patrol jeeps.

I'll add more to my post as I think of them

ryan

It would be cool if you guys add one or too more shotguns. Also fix the reload animation on the current ones to only reload the shell that is used (I shouldn't need to put 6 shells in if 4 are left)

Boogie8541

Former STA Marine here. Thank you all for this absolutely amazing game and a special thanks to the SOG members who collaborated to make it what it is; The best damn Vietnam game on the market.

I'm not sure if this is the right place to put my suggestions for the Mike Force asset of the game... but here goes.

Sandbox:
Civilian populace in appropriate areas - More collateral damage inflicted on the local population could dynamically lead to more VC presence/sabotage in the region
Civilian foragers, rural farmers, workers in appropriate areas - Some Friendly, Some VC and no way to know - Not a direct threat, but if they're VC & have a chance contact with a team, they can later report to the NVA and a tracker team can be sent
The ability to recover and turn in intelligence from NVA/VC leaders and HQs to a CIA officer at Pleiku; turn in enough, it unlocks a randomized special mission
CIA Psy-Ops Missions - Planting spiked ammo or CIA propaganda without being detected could dynamically lower VC presence/sabotage in the region
Tunnel Seek & Destroy Missions - Grid square given to locate entrance to tunnel system which is active with enemy & can be cleared as a task
Sporadically placed NVA/VC outposts/camps/patrols/larger unit bivouacs/vehicles/road guards/FO's etc, that are not shown on the map
NVA/VC in all black that try to low crawl/sneak up to known US FOBs during night attacks while regulars attack from the other side
Fast Rope & STABO or McGuire rig options to insert/extract in dense jungle via Helicopters

Gear:
Water purification tablets, and the ability to refill canteens in the field at fresh water sources to extend LRRP missions/load out option
A compliment of variations of the Stoner 63
DEET, Dry Socks & Radio Batteries (Only joking, but that seems to be about all we're missing!)

Sorry if you already have plans for any/all of this, and thanks for taking the time to read my suggestions. Keep up the great work!

Masa

I'd like if you added the M67 Recoilless Rifle, so the US/ARVN side could have a reloadable man-portable anti-tank weapon. In service since 1959, it also has antipersonnel HE & flechette rounds available, those should be fun to use. A bit heavy at 17kg empty, but most pictures I've seen it's being fired from the shoulder. Since Global Mobilization deemed the Carl Gustaf M2 suitable for shoulder-firing, this shouldn't be an issue.

I found an illustration from a manual of the M103A1 reticle with a quick image search. Since the M67 only has a fixed optical sight and no irons or anything, it should be a lot more painless to zero the sight than the Super Bazookas. I believe the right scale is for the HEAT rounds, while the left is for the antipersonnel rounds, judging by the given muzzle velocities.

I know I already made a couple posts here, but I felt this should be a separate post and not ride on the previous upboats.

MiG21bisFishbedL

My own wishes are largely just more kit, as is most of this thread.

The Australians, or at least the SASR.

MACV/US/ARVN arms:
M1A1 Thompson - This one should also show up in VC hands as they seemed to like the arm enough to copy it.
M-1D Garand - Actually, more Garand types would be preferred, but if I had to pick one? The M-1D.
Stoner M-63 LMG - No brainer.
M203 - It entered service in '69.
M1918 BAR

PAVN/VC:
Vz.58 - Apparently, US Army units taking part in LRRP operations had access to these, as well.
Uk vz.59 LMG

Ground vehicles, my interest largely lies in aviation so I can't get too specific on variants:
US/MACV/ARVN
M48 Patton
M113
M706 Commando
M551 Sheridan

PAVN/VC
UAZ-469
T-54/55
T-34

Aircraft:
USAF/USN/VNAF
O-2A Skymaster would be my personal priority given its significance to the subject matter, maybe O-2B for some PsyOps fun. I'm biased here since I've got stick time in the regular 337.
A Skyraider would be excellent, too. An A-1E or A-1H.
T-28C for the VNAF.
A-37 Dragonfly, because it never gets any love.

VPAF:
An-2, it's a pretty important flier for the Eastern Bloc, over all.
MiG-21, I don't really like to recommend fast-jets since I feel ArmA's strength lies in CAS or CAS adjacent kinds of platforms, but I'm sure many would like the aircraft often dubbed the 'Phantom's Foe'. It should also be noted the VPAF didn't have too many of these and they were very precious airframes. Of course, I'm biased when I say it's precious, of course! Either way, I can confirm 3 variants of MiG-21 used by the VPAF during the US involvement and they are the MiG-21F-13, MiG-21PF, and MiG-21PFM. I can't confirm the MiG-21MF and can outright discount the MiG-21bis as they didn't receive their first bis until '77. I'd love to provide information as best I can as I own books on the MiG-21. Specifically, Yefim Gordon's tome that has a registry of them.

Finally, terrains. So, this would be the most work intensive one given the insane attention to detail we have in Cam Lao Nam.

I'd like to see portions of the theatre represented in a 1:1 scale. Places with specific notoriety in the history of the conflict, like Ia Drang Valley, Hue City, and regions within Laos and Cambodia.

Either way, eagerly looking forward to what may come.

rogonaut

Boogie8541 wrote:
Former STA Marine here. Thank you all for this absolutely amazing game and a special thanks to the SOG members who collaborated to make it what it is; The best damn Vietnam game on the market.

I'm not sure if this is the right place to put my suggestions for the Mike Force asset of the game... but here goes.

Sandbox:

Civilian populace in appropriate areas - More collateral damage inflicted on the local population could dynamically lead to more VC presence/sabotage in the region

Civilian foragers, rural farmers, workers in appropriate areas - Some Friendly, Some VC and no way to know - Not a direct threat, but if they're VC & have a chance contact with a team, they can later report to the NVA and a tracker team can be sent

The ability to recover and turn in intelligence from NVA/VC leaders and HQs to a CIA officer at Pleiku; turn in enough, it unlocks a randomized special mission

CIA Psy-Ops Missions - Planting spiked ammo or CIA propaganda without being detected could dynamically lower VC presence/sabotage in the region

Tunnel Seek & Destroy Missions - Grid square given to locate entrance to tunnel system which is active with enemy & can be cleared as a task

Sporadically placed NVA/VC outposts/camps/patrols/larger unit bivouacs/vehicles/road guards/FO's etc, that are not shown on the map

NVA/VC in all black that try to low crawl/sneak up to known US FOBs during night attacks while regulars attack from the other side

Fast Rope & STABO or McGuire rig options to insert/extract in dense jungle via Helicopters

Gear:

Water purification tablets, and the ability to refill canteens in the field at fresh water sources to extend LRRP missions/load out option

A compliment of variations of the Stoner 63

DEET, Dry Socks & Radio Batteries (Only joking, but that seems to be about all we're missing!)

Sorry if you already have plans for any/all of this, and thanks for taking the time to read my suggestions. Keep up the great work!

very good ideas! hope this gets read by the devs!!

Maarten

We read everything in this thread 😉

MiG21bisFishbedL

Actually, one I totally forgot about that'd be awesome as a MACV option would be the Quiet One. Only problem is finding good references for it.

OGAguy

A weapon cleaning and maintenance model would be really nice... 2x4 gauze wads, oil and pull throughs to prevent jams and excessive recoil, esp on high caliber long guns also stripping the weapons down could be another thing to occupy down time and add to the immersion

next.. i know this is a big one...could you create a persistent war like in the mmg Foxhole where all players are in the same game space and the war persists and evolves over time (except if 1st person instead of top down). If you could merge the arma and foxhole worlds via this dlc it would be fully insane as each war unites the entire community and creates its own lore. Foxhole also brings a whole dynamic of logistics and planning which brings it to life for instance Ive spent days just assisting keeping a single artillery piece pumping at an enemy frontline position with a team that I got to know. When the final push happened it was very satisfying for everybody. This would be amazing in vietnam in an FPS.

Thanks for the amazing DLC guys. Capturing these live accounts and embedding them in the sim like you have is taking the documentation on this war to the next level and evolving the milsim genre beyond our wildest imaginations.

Bando

Buck shot on both shotgun and 40mm really really needs addressing. Buckshot should be effective to similar ranges as smgs now this wall of weak pellets. Please look at things like tarkov for a better representation of how buckshot behaves. You have made the shotguns act like you are firing birdshot out of a 1 inch barrel

SeaCow52

A1 Skyraider!

Kenny

My Wishlist

M60 200 round mag for infantry
Weight of m1/m2 carbine needs to be lighter.(similar to XM177)
Type56 rifle(AK) bayonet needs to be activated in melee attack
melee attack with separate key not by changing fire mod(f)
Backpack and vests that have more capacity
tanktop(sleeveless) shirts, MG belt vests, neck towels
give more 'explosive protection' to helmets
Add(not replace) M72 LAW horizontal(on backpack)

tonic

The most things I wish to see are technical issues.

Content:
I think the gameplay (with my playstyle) would benefit from a M114. For me, the tank you delivered does not fit my infantry centered playstayle. Therefore I love the helicopters you provided!

Issues:

AI (movement) cannot pass all those rice fields.
AI cannot move down (to the south side) from FOB MSS Leghorn.

Module-Improvement:
I suggested already this one: https://community.sogpf.com/threads/479-Feature-Request-User-definable-callbacks-for-gestures-menu?p=1483#post1483

Maarten wrote:
We can't promise anything, or even talk about any future roadmap, as we may never deliver on that, and cause a lot of upset!

But we can do our very best to answer your questions, or facilitate your discussions and ideas.

We can also help community creators with their mods to add things to the DLC experience.

So what do you want to see in the Prairie Fire DLC?

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