Incorrect reload animations

Violet

This DLC has a lot of issues with reloading for some weapons, namely the ones that don't reload with a detachable box or magazine.
For instance, if you shoot the M38 carbine once, and then reload, you will reload 5 bullets into the gun. No matter how many rounds are missing, you will always play an animation of loading the the gun from empty. This affects the shotguns and all other bolt action rifles as well. Additionally, ammo in clips and even individual shells/bullets are grouped into "magazines" that are swapped for the ammo remaining in the clip.

This can in the absurd situation of shooting one round while fully loaded, then reloading by stuffing 5 more bullets in your gun, only to find you've switched to a "magazine" with only one round remaining. 4 rounds + 5 rounds = 1 round?

IMO, treating the ammo in guns that are often singly reloaded like guns in removable magazines doesn't make any sense. Reloading when not empty should only add the missing rounds, and they should be added from a magazine in the player's inventory, instead of swapped wholesale via a reload animation that violates the laws of physics.

I really like the CDLC though, it's one of my favorite ways to play ArmA now 🙂

Whiplash

Hi Violet, this is known and unfortunatly this is a limitation with the Arma engine.

Violet

Whiplash wrote:
Hi Violet, this is known and unfortunatly this is a limitation with the Arma engine.

If this is the case, how does the IFA3 (Iron Front Arma 3) mod manage to have correct reload animations that DO depend on the rounds currently? It's the same game and engine, with even some of the same guns. It's definitely possible to have the animations work the right way in ArmA 3, and I doubt that IFA3 is the only content that does it.

eggbeast

Modders are able to use scripts that paid content DLC's may not. These scripts can be quite complex and cause issues in multiplayer, or on AI, or in other more rare situations, that don't get noticed much when examining a mod for flaws (people are more forgiving of free content) but QA carried out by Bohemia is rigorouus in this regard, and also we have a very high bar in terms of functions that are permitted, as server CPU is the chief bottleneck in multiplayer arma. So we do not routinely add custom animations and custom ammo count monitoring etc which the mod you mentioned does.
Making a paid product we have to make compromises on what we might like to do versus what we really have to do to optimise player experience.

I imagine they are using either conditions which calculate the ammo count and then force the playing of a specific animation (this is highly risky as player may be killed during the reload anim being force-played, causing weird synch issues), or they are using a CBA extended eventhandler framework, which we may not use as DLC's must not have mod dependencies, or they are switching the actual weapon based on the ammo count, with a different reloadmagazine animation hardcoded to each of say 5 different weapons, a 1-round, a 2-round a 3-round a 4-round and a 5-round animation weapon.

This kind of black magic is not permitted in paid content.

Thanks for understanding

Violet

That was really interesting, thank you.